I was 14 years old, my brother brought me down to Creative Ministries and I met Noel, and he put me in a show called “High Tops.” I did that and Noel was the youth minister at my church, and he talked me into doing “A Christmas Carol”. So once I was around that time, maybe a year later, I was playing piano and he had me start a summer camp where I taught kids how to do music, and we taught them vocals and all that stuff. So after that, he basically saw what I could do and he put me in charge of musically directing. I played in “Fiddler on the Roof,” “Annie,” all kinds of stuff. It taught me how to get in front of adults and deal with adults and it made me read music better and taught me all the aspects; all the harmonies, how to read it, all of it.